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Beta 3.3
on: October 13, 2021, 04:18:47 PM
As for first look, it works without visible bugs.
In preferences in interface section cursor outline in 2 instances. Upper one doesn’t work, lower one works as it should.

Here my overall thoughts about beta.
1. Gallery is good. But I’d prefer color scheme in setting for gallery that doesn’t connect with app. I mean I use dark theme for app, and light theme for system interface.
2. Bulk export is good. Tested export of 10 files. Pretty long preparation (around 1 min), but exported all files correctly to jpeg.
3. Sample size in eyedropper works well. Quite helpful addition.
4. Guide layout is helpful thing too.
5. Export/import settings, I hope it also remembers quick menu and top toolbar (didn’t test it yet). Good addition.
6. 3 multitasking dots hiding from interface is a good solution, pencil doesn’t mess with it anymore.
7. Autoshape. I was waiting it the most. At the moment in my opinion it has two big flaws:
a) it uses 100% size and 100% flow which ruins main idea of autoshape. For example, I sketch with any pencil that has flow and size connected with pencil pressure. I just want to draw clean arc. All my lines are narrow and textured, but this arc is big fat like made with basic round brush. Shape should have same flow and size that was during drawing this shape.
b) you can’t move your shape after it created, you can only rotate/change size while you still hold your pencil on. That’s very limited. At least we need the option to move shape. Or better to operate with this shape with vector points.
Check Procreate, they have pretty good autoshape implementation.

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Re: Beta 3.3
Reply #1 on: October 13, 2021, 04:45:57 PM
I agree with everything especially the autoshape stuff. Autoshape needs to have brush flow and it definitely needs to be editable after making the shape.

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Re: Beta 3.3
Reply #2 on: October 13, 2021, 08:44:48 PM
App crashes when you try to play recorded video.

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Reply #3 on: October 13, 2021, 10:41:19 PM
I don’t use the Beta so I don’t really know how it is. But all of this sounds exciting! :D

Also agree on everything that was said about the auto shapes.

When using Autoshape does it still work to make perfect circle, rectangle and 90° lines when tapping with second finger?
Last Edit: October 14, 2021, 10:34:25 PM by icezimy

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Reply #4 on: October 14, 2021, 12:15:19 AM
Just download the testflight app and send Lucky Clan your email address and they should set you up with access to the beta. Unfortunately, autoshape in the beta does not generate perfect circles or squares when tapping with a second finger, though it does snap to angles with straight lines.

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Reply #5 on: October 14, 2021, 02:30:19 AM
We will be working on Autoshape improvements this and next week. I'm going to use stroke pressure to generate the shape. ANd maybe add some editing options.

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Reply #6 on: October 14, 2021, 02:53:55 AM
Perfect circle / square - it will be fixed asap.

I don’t use the Beta so I don’t really know how it is. But all of this sounds exciting! :D

But I also think it should be possible to have the new gallery inside the App in dark mode separate from system mode, if that’s not already the case.

Also agree on everything that was said about the auto shapes.

When using Autoshape does it still work to make perfect circle, rectangle and 90° lines when tapping with second finger?

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Reply #7 on: October 14, 2021, 06:19:03 AM
Is it possible to slightly modify layer options menu.

1. add one more section to layers menu. Would be good to have all most used operations in one place.
2. Add all lock options. Right now you have to 3 times tap all these locks.
Last Edit: October 14, 2021, 06:23:51 AM by lastaccess

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Reply #8 on: October 14, 2021, 07:06:42 AM
You can add most used operations to Quick Menu/Top Menu/Key Shortcuts.

Besides it is hard to say which operations are the most used.

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Reply #9 on: October 14, 2021, 08:32:30 AM
You can add most used operations to Quick Menu/Top Menu/Key Shortcuts.

Besides it is hard to say which operations are the most used.

I mean the most used operations with layers is creating, merging, duplicating, masking. Masks are already in layer option menu. But ok, that was just suggestion.

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Reply #10 on: October 14, 2021, 09:37:53 AM
Merge is also available in Layers panel bottom icons.

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Reply #11 on: October 14, 2021, 05:53:38 PM
I tried it now too and the first impression is awesome! I love that you can change the accent color, I’m really happy my suggestion was taken! :D it gives the whole app a new feel and all the small UI improvements also make the app look even better than before. I like the system integrated gallery too, it will make exporting, moving files etc much easier!

Anyway there are a few things I’ve noticed while using it so far.

Bugs and possible changes:
- snapping lines to perspective grid doesn’t work
- “cursor shape” shows up 2 times in settings preferences>interface and the top one isn’t clickable (screenshot is attached)
- autoshape circle and ovals don’t have expected size, the circles and ovals always “snap” way smaller than what was drawn (video attached) in the video to demonstrate i made a rectangle and inside it a circle touching the edges, so you would expect the circle to be roughly that size but instead it’s much smaller and inside the rectangle
- autoshape should NOT snap into perfect shape, unless you press down with second finger
- sometimes (~40% of time) when making a rectangle with autoshape, it switches into an oval instead, even if I made really clear edges
- all the other things here that were already mention about autoshape
- quick menu size is too big now (for small hands like mine) So it would be good to have an option to choose the size yourself
- deleting a color swatch via long pressing is not working (for some reason this opens the App gallery?)
- I think “gutter” setting from guide layout should be set to 0 by default, instead of 10
-crash when trying to play timelapse recording

Suggested features to add:
- Add option to “clear layer” in preferences > gestures. So for example you could set 3 finger swipe or tap to clear layer
- Already mentioned that one but gonna say again, I think being able to add perspective grid and guide settings to shortcut menu and toolbar would be really useful and also the option to change line thickness and opacity of perspective grid
- I think it would make sense that while you’re in “guide settings” you can add guidelines and move and delete the guidelines. So you don’t have to exit this setting and use “ show ruler” to add and “move tool” to remove or move a guide.

And auto hide 3 dots and home indicator is great but I think the time it takes to “hide” should be less, if that is something you can change.
And also it gets triggered every time you use “single tap” even on the middle of the the screen (to which I have set quick menu). So it keeps constantly showing up anyway and you would have to wait after every tap for it to disappear again. So if there’s an option for it to disappear, even if you keep drawing directly after tapping and don’t have to wait, or if the time for it to disappear could be set really really short, that would solve it I think. Otherwise it would still be on screen all the time, since I think its unrealistic that you wait so long after every “single tap”. (Also included a video with random scribbles to show that the 3dots and indicator won’t disappear if you continue drawing right after single tapping)

That’s all so far, hope it helps! :)
Thank you so much for the great development of this app!

Edit: tested on M1 iPad Pro 12.9 (512GB) and also attached screenshot of the document settings :)
Last Edit: October 14, 2021, 11:51:52 PM by icezimy

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Reply #12 on: October 14, 2021, 06:32:35 PM
Quick menu size is very personal. I like current one in beta, old one in stable is too small. But if we could choose from different preset size, that would be good.

Also, I’d have it all the time centered (optionally of course). That is especially important if you have quick menu set on apple pencil 2nd gen tap.

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Reply #13 on: October 14, 2021, 11:49:15 PM
After using Beta few more hours, I think new quick menu size is not a big deal after all, got used to it quickly. :) But I do like the way it is now, that it appears where-ever you tap on the screen, I don’t think it should be centered on middle, that should definitely be optional, if they ever decide to add something like that.

Also here’s a video showing that autoshape rectangles turn into ovals sometimes, couldn’t add more to the other one
Last Edit: October 15, 2021, 12:30:31 AM by icezimy

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Reply #14 on: October 15, 2021, 03:23:31 AM
Thanks for all your reports, we are working on them now. Here are few comments:
- add "Clear" to gestures - we will not do that, you can show it in top menu/quick menu/shortcut.
- "3 dots" icon is managed by system, we can only make it "auto hidden"
- dynamic flow/opacity/size in Autoshape will be implemented probably next week

The rest should be ready in new beta which will be released today.