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Suggestions, Ideas, Bugs / Re: beta 806 bug?
on: June 17, 2022, 10:49:27 AM
1) Yes but exactly that option is not working for me in the beta, even with "clip thumbnails to image bounds" the thumbnail will stay square... it works fine in the app store version, as you could see in the screen recording

2) I tried again on A4 canvas with only 3 layers, it still doesn't work

3) I understand... but maybe thickness can still be reduced a bit more

4) The outline looks very weird in my eyes, I actually thought it was a graphical bug, rather than an visibility improvement... Especially thin strokes (sketches) are hard to see details like that. I think it should be completely removed again.

Checkerboard was better in that case, since on checkerboard you can see light and dark strokes... However, in Procreate it works too without checkerboard and without outline, so idk... but the outline definitely is very very odd

4) nvm it’s much better with the thinner outline!

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It should be ok in the latest beta

Unfortunately not… it’s still exactly the same as in the previous video I attached (version 4.1 beta(819))

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Active area was increased a bit weeks ago in the App Store version.

It seems increasing sidebar width is not the good idea, maybe it should be redesigned from scratch...
I will publish version with increased width in new beta so you can test it. But then i will probably go back to original width .

Any update of when it will go back to previous width?

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Suggestions, Ideas, Bugs / Re: beta 806 bug?
on: June 01, 2022, 06:00:30 AM
1) Yes but exactly that option is not working for me in the beta, even with "clip thumbnails to image bounds" the thumbnail will stay square... it works fine in the app store version, as you could see in the screen recording

2) I tried again on A4 canvas with only 3 layers, it still doesn't work

3) I understand... but maybe thickness can still be reduced a bit more

4) The outline looks very weird in my eyes, I actually thought it was a graphical bug, rather than an visibility improvement... Especially thin strokes (sketches) are hard to see details like that. I think it should be completely removed again.

Checkerboard was better in that case, since on checkerboard you can see light and dark strokes... However, in Procreate it works too without checkerboard and without outline, so idk... but the outline definitely is very very odd

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Suggestions, Ideas, Bugs / Re: beta 806 bug?
on: May 31, 2022, 11:35:25 AM
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We removed "Square Thumbnails" option from Preferences to make UI more consistent.
1) I saw that, but what I meant is, that it’s generally always square thumbnail now. Before it was possible to have the thumbnail in the same ratio as the image. Now it only changes within the square ratio, when it should be changing the overall ratio. If that’s on purpose, then I don’t think it’s the best UI decision, I think it should be up to the user if they want a square thumbnail or image ratio, so definitely the previous way, where everything could be adjusted individually was better. (Like in the current AppStore version)

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Layer Flashing options works fine, i have just tested that.
2) It doesn’t do anything for me, it also doesn’t work in the AppStore version, I just noticed.

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X is too thick - we will fix it
3) I saw it was adjusted a bit, but I still think it’s too thick and opaque. It should be very subtle, like before, otherwise it’s too distracting.

4) Also the strokes of the thumbnails (like the lines of what is drawn on the layer), look a bit weird now, almost as if they are very strongly sharpened with a white outline around it. It doesn’t look like a true representation of what’s on the layer, the colors look slighty different too. Especially if you compare it with the current AppStore version, it looks wrong.

I attached a screen recording showing all of what I just mentioned, compared with the beta (dark blue accent color) and the AppStore version(light blue accent color). Generally I’d suggest everything to stay as it was, except for removing the checkerboard background. The other changes made to the thumbnails right now, are not an improvement to the UI, imo it looks less professional, with less options than before. Hope it can be fixed.

Thanks!

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Yes, you can copy and paste the favorites folder through the files app

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1) Just tested the new beta and it’s already so much better with the opacity slider! So I don’t think line thickness will be needed now.

But the opacity slider should really go from 0% to 100%, meaning that at 0% percent the lines aren’t visible at all. Right now they are more like between 30% -100%, so at 0% they are still visible, which seems weird. It should work like when adjusting layer opacity.

And the horizon line doesn’t get affected by the opacity slider, but it should too.

Also there’s still a lack of consistency between canvas sizes of the lines, so basically, they still appear “thicker” on lower resolutions and “thinner” on bigger ones. Which would be okay now, if the other things I just mentioned will be fixed.

2) the grid is still unevenly spaced in 1 point

3) artifacts and overlapping lines at horizon are still present

4) As just one more small note, I want to suggest removing the “density 3” option from the one and two point perspective, as it doesn’t do anything in those.

Thank you!

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Suggestions, Ideas, Bugs / Re: beta 806 bug?
on: May 26, 2022, 09:44:10 AM
We will fix both things asap

The thumbnails are still only shown as squares in the latest beta. “clip thumbnail to image bounds” in preferences>interface>Layers, only changes the size within the square ratio. And “layer flashing” changes nothing currently.

Also the X indicator to show that a layer is empty, is too thick now, it would be visually better to make the lines of the X thinner and more transparent again.

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Suggestions, Ideas, Bugs / Re: Outdated autosave system
on: May 26, 2022, 09:39:56 AM
We decreased a bit time to trigger Autosave. Now, in the latest beta, you have to stop painting for at least 2-3 seconds.

The problem with faster autosave is that we always have to update preview and thumbnail images inside the document, which takes a lot of time when document is large.

Maybe the thumbnail/preview images could only be updated when actually switching to the document browser, or when clicking on/opening the “open documents” view?

So that while you’re just on the canvas and painting, it doesn’t need to do those thumbnail updates every time, and can just save continually. So it would only take longer when actually going to document browser.

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1) We will add "Opacity" slider in Perpective settings in new beta

2) ???

3) how can we reproduce that?

1) Awesome! But I definitely think a “line thickness” slider will also be needed, to make it more visible when zooming out. Unless you can find a way to generally make the lines more visible on big canvas sizes. So I think that means, basically finding a way to keep the thickness of the perspective lines consistent, independently of what canvas size, resolution, grid density, etc… you choose. Then only an opacity slider would be enough (like in Adobe Fresco).

2) It’s hard to explain, but you can see on the image that they are not spaced evenly as they should be, the lines continually move close together towards the center.

3) I’m not sure, it was always there for me, doesn’t matter how many perspective points are used or in which color, but the “glitching” seems to be more apparent on larger canvas sizes, on smaller ones the horizon line mostly looks just black, mixed with the other colors of the perspective lines. I think maybe that artifacts  happen because at the horizon, several lines are on top of each other. It would be ideal if the horizon line would just take one color/ line instead of overlaying multiple ones (like neutral dark grey maybe, but not 50% as that color is often used for the canvas background color. Or maybe just take the same color of the 1 perspective point, but as a slightly thicker line), and maybe that would fix it.

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I think it was fixed in the latest beta.

It’s still the same in the latest beta. I included a screen recording, showing the small difference between keyboard shortcut and Apple Pencil, and the big difference when using 3 finger swipe.


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Suggestions, Ideas, Bugs / Re: beta 806 bug?
on: May 19, 2022, 09:41:10 AM
Another bug I noticed regarding that, is that the thumbnails are always square ratio now. Before it was possible to change the thumbnails to the same ratio like the canvas is when “clip thumbnail to image bounds” in preferences>interface>Layers was turned on, now those option don’t work anymore.

Also I think it would be good if the white animation layer thumbnail background would have the same dark grey color as in the layers panel and also have the same ratio as the canvas when that setting is turned on, to look more consistent.

And one more bug is that the layer thumbnail in the animation panel doesn’t update it’s thumbnail after each stroke, it only updates if you switch to a different layer.

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We will fix it asap.

I just noticed that when the toggle is on to show it in the corner, the brush previews are still at slightly different positions between Apple Pencil and keyboard shortcut. And at a very different position when changing with the 3 finger swipe gesture

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Suggestions, Ideas, Bugs / Re: Tool indicator bug
on: May 17, 2022, 09:18:12 AM
We reproduced and fixed this! Please wait for new beta or minor update on the app store.

Great thank you so much! :D

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Suggestions, Ideas, Bugs / Re: Outdated autosave system
on: May 17, 2022, 09:12:48 AM
We are now working on faster autosave!

I have just tested one large document, and we went down from 10s to 1.5s when autosaving after painting one layer. It will be available in new beta.

That's awesome looking forward for the update! :D

But I also noticed that sometimes even if it says "autosaving", but then the app crashes soon after,  or I manually close and reopen the app, it didn't actually autosave it for quite some time. (Sometimes lost work up to an hour like this, sometimes just a few min, even though autosave is set to just 1min)

One way i go around this, is by periodically going to the document browser after it autosaved and then back to the canvas, or by saving it manually before closing it and just in between. Usually it only then, actually saved it to the current version when reopening the app manually or after a crash, or sometimes even after just switching between apps.

Not sure why that is,  but I notice it mostly on bigger files.

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