Now I wouldn't stop them, but looking at the results in CSP I am totally underwhelmed by their feature. The inferred geometry and thus shading just doesn't look good to me. Maybe it's the particular example of the girl's head. But the last image (interior) looks even worse, or rather wrong, with gradients all over the place that just don't belong there. I guess to make this work better the app could make use of ai models that better predict the actual geometry, and so can apply shading that is ... realistic, or rather convincing. This would, of course, defy the purpose of a drawing app and take away the fun of painting, illustrating and creating stylized images 

Having exactly the same thoughts about this 😅

Please test new beta, it is now possible to just pick "Pigment" blending mode in Layers panel or in Tool panel.
But the most simple way is still just tapping "Pigment" button in Layers panel which turns on Pigment blending mode for both tool and layer.

Yes, thank you! It’s great now, for all different situations! 😊

Wait, I just realized that with the update, the option to add pigment blending to specific brushes was removed entirely?

That means now with the way it is set up, it’s not even possible to use the pigment option together with other layer blending modes, like color dodge/multiply/etc. and you have to turn it on for each layer individually… that makes no sense imo.

I agree that having just one button to turn it on is a good idea, but it should still be possible to then use other layer blending modes, multiple layers etc., together with the pigment option. Is there no way to make it globally that colors just behave like this, while keeping all other functionalities the same? Like Bob said, that it just “does it” when turning it on. I think a “global button” should then also be within the settings and not inside the layers panel.

Having to turn it on it for each individual layer, and not being able to use other layer blending modes with it, is very restrictive now

It's ready in new beta! Now you have to only tap "Pigment" button in Layers panel to start using pigment blending.

Hmm I just tested it, don’t think it’s the best way to got about it… It’d make more sense to keep it in the “layer blending” drop down than to dedicate a new button to it, or to keep it in the menu that opens when clicking on the layer.

Also, while it works on a single layer now, it’s still not really behaving like a layer blending mode. When turning the pigment option off again, it doesn’t change the painted strokes back to the “normal blending” only new strokes will then blend “normal”. It would be like using the color dodge layer blending mode, and then even when turning it off, it wouldn’t change back to “normal”. And when using a whole group, it also only affects new layers that are added and not the ones already in it. It’s all very confusing right now.

Maybe the easiest solution would be to remove it completely as a layer blending option, and only leave it as an option for the brushes? At least if it’s not possible to make it behave like all the other layer blending options right now.

Ah I see. Thanks for explaining! 😅 Yes I personally think it would be better with that change

Yes it would make more sense for it to behave like other layer blending modes

Hey!

I'm so happy to finally test the new beta! It's amazing so far!
Here are a few things and bugs I've noticed so far:

General bugs:

1) When importing an image into the reference view while a Bluetooth controller (8bitdo zero 2) is connected, it somehow disconnects it until the app restarted. (This is an issue outside of the beta too, with the version currently available on the AppStore)

2) When trying to open an existing file that has “missing fonts” (fonts that are not currently imported into ASP already) it doesn’t open the document at all and gets stuck in an endless loading cycle until the app is restarted.

3) Same files generally seems to have longer loading times to open them, than in the current AppStore version.

Pigment Bugs:

I’ve used the standard "hard dyn opacity round" as brush tool and "light smudge" as smudge tool for testing the pigment options:

4) I can't seem to get the pigment option with the "layer blending mode" option to work at all. It behaves like a normal layer.

one bug i found so far, looks like using "current and below" with pigment brushes makes the canvas flash

Can’t seem to replicate that one either

Suggestions:

5) Could there be a way to globally enable the pigment option inside the settings, instead of each brush/layer individually ? Similarly to how it was recently implemented to automatically have the "opacity slider" set as default for each brush, an automatic global "pigment option" would be very nice too (I think most people will probably use it for all their brushes anyway). I also use brushes mainly out of the "favorites" panel and right now, you have to manually turn the pigment option on again every time you switch the brush or tool. (Unless I manually re-save each brush/tool with the pigment option, which will take a lot of time).

6) Nothing to do with the new Pigments. But maybe now could be a good time to also introduce a way to let users choose a fully custom accent color for the UI? This has been suggested in the past a few times, but I think it would be great to be able to choose your own accent color in addition to one of the few that can be selected right now. Either via a color wheel or even just with a hex code. Just wanted to bring this up again, since it’s all about colors now!

I'm also very happy to see that the pigment option works together with other layer blending modes like "color dodge" or “multiply”. And that exporting into other programs/formats doesn't seems to mess with the colors. This is such a huge game changer over all!

I'm testing on the 2021/ 12.9 iPad Pro / M1 / 512GB.
3240x4050px canvas, 50%grey background, sRGB color mode

Thanks for the great work Lucky Clan!

Hey!

I was just very surprised after opening the app that the UI looks very different. I think it's great that lucky clan always tries to improve their UI, however I see two major issues with this new design, that I think should be adjusted quickly.

The first one is that the new background color in darkmode is too bright grey now. It should be darker than the rest of the UI (as before), not brighter. I personally think this new lighter grey background gives the app an outdated look, and is distracting while painting. It doesn’t even feel like true darkmode anymore. Any other painting app on the market has the standard of dark grey background, lighter toolbar, because it’s better against different colors, and more neutral/ modern overall.

Also the new side sliders are a bit distracting because, there is a lot of "white space" in them, which distracts the eye in the peripheral because it’s too much/ too high of contrast for darkmode. It also looks a bit out of place, since it doesn't fit the overall selected color scheme anymore. If you're keeping this new slider, I think a thinner "white space" slider similar to Procreates implementation should be considered. The thinner slider could also match the color scheme (not necessarily). I attached a screenshot to roughly explain it all.

Thanks!