Author Topic: Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function  (Read 4093 times)

alfanders

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Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function
on: April 11, 2022, 05:30:19 AM
Hi, I have a suggestion to combine these three Merge functionality into one.



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Right now, the Merge options are separated into three options, which are Merge Down, Merge Group, and Merge Selected.
I think it would be better to combine them and use each functionality correspondingly.



Currently, you can only choose one of them at a time.
  • If you are in an active layer, you can only do Merge Down and nothing else
  • If you are in a group, you can only do Merge Group and nothing else
  • If you have several layers or groups selected, you can only do Merge Selected and nothing else

These three functions basically do the same thing, which is to merge the selected layers into a merged layer. But since the three of them are separated, you have to assign different keyboard shortcuts for each of them, and use them accordingly. If you're currently selecting a group, you won't be able to use your shortcut used for Merge Down, even tho contextually (not technically) it basically does the same thing which is merging the currently actively selected layers. And so on.

I believe combining them would make more sense contextually. And since these three (Merge Down, Merge Group, and Merge Selected) have no intersecting use case, it's even safer and even more intuitive for them to be combined into one Merge function that accommodates the three use cases accordingly based on the context of the situation.

The benefit of combining them into just one Merge option is also that you can just assign one Keyboard Shortcut to accommodate all Merging use cases.

Here's how I envision how the combined Merge works



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As for toolbar, currently, whenever you click the Merge button, it shows options that displays the option either for Merge (based on context) or to Merge Visible. From what I try to understand, the intention is to show the user that it is possible to do Merge Visible if you want to. But for the majority of the time, people only want to do Merge with this button. And unfortunately, that means that whenever you want to Merge, you have to make two clicks, just to accommodate the rare occurrence where you'd want to use Merge Visible.

I believe that this could be improved. I'm suggesting that the button is now by default would be used for Merge if being clicked, and only when being held down, that it'd show the Merge and Merge Visible option. I think this would satisfy both needs to show the option of Merge Visible when needed, but also minimize the amount of click needed to do Merge making it more comfortable to use.



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Would love to know your opinion on this! Thank you so much! 💖✨

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Re: Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function
Reply #1 on: April 11, 2022, 10:34:04 AM
+1 "merge visible" is really not needed that often, so I like the idea with the long press, to save one extra step most of the time

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Re: Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function
Reply #2 on: April 28, 2022, 07:25:06 AM
Thanks for you idead

I rather not agree, but partly agree :) All "Merge" options are different functions, and I bet many users need quick access to for "Merge All", "Flatten" etc. SO they can add a shortcut or add them to top toolbar.

Besides you would have to constantly remember what is actually selected (single layer, multple layers, group).
Maybe it would be a right solution when designing new app from scratch, but rather not now...

However i will consider changing behaviour of "Merge" icon in Layers panel. It would work like you described.

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Re: Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function
Reply #3 on: April 28, 2022, 10:39:01 AM
Hi Lucky Clan! Thank you for your reply!

I rather not agree, but partly agree :) All "Merge" options are different functions, and I bet many users need quick access to for "Merge All", "Flatten" etc. SO they can add a shortcut or add them to top toolbar.

I absolutely agree with you on this part. That is why what I suggest to be combined are just these three. ✨



Merge Visible, Merge All, and Flatten is not combined as they are unique, behave differently, and as you said, users need them.

Going with this logic, to use Merge, you would need to assign 3 different icon on toolbar. Which are, Merge Down, Merge Group, and Merge Selected. In which, only one could be used at a time. That sounds rather non-optimal don't you think? Having Merge Down, Merge Group, and Merge Selected combined as just "Merge" would be more space efficient for the toolbar as well! ✨


Besides you would have to constantly remember what is actually selected (single layer, multple layers, group).
Maybe it would be a right solution when designing new app from scratch, but rather not now...

I believe you'd actually need to remember if you're actually separating the three functions. I believe it is more intuitive to expect the Merge functionality to merge whatever selected on the layers menu. Be it a layer, a group, or multiple layers.

Based on my experience, I'm always aware of what layer I'm in. It's because you always need to draw in the correct layer in digital painting.

Here's how I imagine people gonna use it if they're using a keyboard

Basically what people will do with the suggested implementation is :
Select the layer/layers/group -> Merge it (press the shortcut for merge)

while with current implementation :
Select the layer/layers/group -> See whether it's a layer, multiple layers, or group -> Merge it (pick between 3 different shortcuts based on what's selected)

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I believe that is not very intuitive. To make this feels better, I believe combining only Merge Down, Merge Group, and Merge Selected together would be nice. ✨

OR you could also make it allow the user to assign the same shortcut to Merge Down, Merge Group, and Merge Selected. I believe it would satisfy both keeping them different feature, and also easy to use on keyboard.

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Again, thank you for your reply Lucky Clan! Appreciate it! 💖
Last Edit: April 28, 2022, 03:02:07 PM by alfanders

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Re: Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function
Reply #4 on: April 29, 2022, 05:52:13 AM
We implemented unified Merge in Layers panel, it will be available in new beta. Merge items in the menu were not changed.

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Re: Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function
Reply #5 on: April 29, 2022, 07:34:48 AM
We implemented unified Merge in Layers panel, it will be available in new beta. Merge items in the menu were not changed.

understood thank you so much!
I love the additional Unified Merge options. It satisfy both needs for having these merges separate and also ease of usage.

Would there be an option to assign the unified Merge to a single keyboard shortcut? That would be immensely helpful 💖

Thank you Lucky Clan! ✨

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Re: Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function
Reply #6 on: April 29, 2022, 02:05:56 PM
Hmm, maybe...

We implemented unified Merge in Layers panel, it will be available in new beta. Merge items in the menu were not changed.

understood thank you so much!
I love the additional Unified Merge options. It satisfy both needs for having these merges separate and also ease of usage.

Would there be an option to assign the unified Merge to a single keyboard shortcut? That would be immensely helpful 💖

Thank you Lucky Clan! ✨

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Re: Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function
Reply #7 on: April 30, 2022, 05:31:32 AM
Hmm, maybe...

I'd love to ask to have unified merge able to get its own shortcut key. That'd be absolutely terrific!! 💖✨

Also, I've tried the new merge ui and it's lovely!
I can't seem to activate the UI when you hold merge however, is it completely removed?



Thank You again Lucky Clan! 💖
Last Edit: April 30, 2022, 04:21:40 PM by alfanders

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Re: Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function
Reply #8 on: May 11, 2022, 03:24:26 AM
Shortcut for unified merge - we will unify "Merge Down" option like we unified Merge icon in Layers panel

Long press on Merge icon in Layers panel - we never had such option. You have to use top menu to Merge Visible/All etc
Last Edit: May 11, 2022, 03:52:17 AM by Lucky Clan

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Re: Suggestion : Combine "Merge" into one function
Reply #9 on: May 12, 2022, 03:53:40 PM
Shortcut for unified merge - we will unify "Merge Down" option like we unified Merge icon in Layers panel

Long press on Merge icon in Layers panel - we never had such option. You have to use top menu to Merge Visible/All etc

Oh I see!! Thank you so much Lucky Clannn, this is super helpful!!
Appreciate your hard work!! 💖✨💖✨