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Support => Suggestions, Ideas, Bugs => Topic started by: lastaccess on October 13, 2021, 04:18:47 PM

Title: Beta 3.3
Post by: lastaccess on October 13, 2021, 04:18:47 PM
As for first look, it works without visible bugs.
In preferences in interface section cursor outline in 2 instances. Upper one doesn’t work, lower one works as it should.

Here my overall thoughts about beta.
1. Gallery is good. But I’d prefer color scheme in setting for gallery that doesn’t connect with app. I mean I use dark theme for app, and light theme for system interface.
2. Bulk export is good. Tested export of 10 files. Pretty long preparation (around 1 min), but exported all files correctly to jpeg.
3. Sample size in eyedropper works well. Quite helpful addition.
4. Guide layout is helpful thing too.
5. Export/import settings, I hope it also remembers quick menu and top toolbar (didn’t test it yet). Good addition.
6. 3 multitasking dots hiding from interface is a good solution, pencil doesn’t mess with it anymore.
7. Autoshape. I was waiting it the most. At the moment in my opinion it has two big flaws:
a) it uses 100% size and 100% flow which ruins main idea of autoshape. For example, I sketch with any pencil that has flow and size connected with pencil pressure. I just want to draw clean arc. All my lines are narrow and textured, but this arc is big fat like made with basic round brush. Shape should have same flow and size that was during drawing this shape.
b) you can’t move your shape after it created, you can only rotate/change size while you still hold your pencil on. That’s very limited. At least we need the option to move shape. Or better to operate with this shape with vector points.
Check Procreate, they have pretty good autoshape implementation.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: ggermain1 on October 13, 2021, 04:45:57 PM
I agree with everything especially the autoshape stuff. Autoshape needs to have brush flow and it definitely needs to be editable after making the shape.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: lastaccess on October 13, 2021, 08:44:48 PM
App crashes when you try to play recorded video.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: icezimy on October 13, 2021, 10:41:19 PM
I don’t use the Beta so I don’t really know how it is. But all of this sounds exciting! :D

Also agree on everything that was said about the auto shapes.

When using Autoshape does it still work to make perfect circle, rectangle and 90° lines when tapping with second finger?
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: ggermain1 on October 14, 2021, 12:15:19 AM
Just download the testflight app and send Lucky Clan your email address and they should set you up with access to the beta. Unfortunately, autoshape in the beta does not generate perfect circles or squares when tapping with a second finger, though it does snap to angles with straight lines.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 14, 2021, 02:30:19 AM
We will be working on Autoshape improvements this and next week. I'm going to use stroke pressure to generate the shape. ANd maybe add some editing options.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 14, 2021, 02:53:55 AM
Perfect circle / square - it will be fixed asap.

I don’t use the Beta so I don’t really know how it is. But all of this sounds exciting! :D

But I also think it should be possible to have the new gallery inside the App in dark mode separate from system mode, if that’s not already the case.

Also agree on everything that was said about the auto shapes.

When using Autoshape does it still work to make perfect circle, rectangle and 90° lines when tapping with second finger?
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: lastaccess on October 14, 2021, 06:19:03 AM
Is it possible to slightly modify layer options menu.

1. add one more section to layers menu. Would be good to have all most used operations in one place.
2. Add all lock options. Right now you have to 3 times tap all these locks.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 14, 2021, 07:06:42 AM
You can add most used operations to Quick Menu/Top Menu/Key Shortcuts.

Besides it is hard to say which operations are the most used.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: lastaccess on October 14, 2021, 08:32:30 AM
You can add most used operations to Quick Menu/Top Menu/Key Shortcuts.

Besides it is hard to say which operations are the most used.

I mean the most used operations with layers is creating, merging, duplicating, masking. Masks are already in layer option menu. But ok, that was just suggestion.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 14, 2021, 09:37:53 AM
Merge is also available in Layers panel bottom icons.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: icezimy on October 14, 2021, 05:53:38 PM
I tried it now too and the first impression is awesome! I love that you can change the accent color, I’m really happy my suggestion was taken! :D it gives the whole app a new feel and all the small UI improvements also make the app look even better than before. I like the system integrated gallery too, it will make exporting, moving files etc much easier!

Anyway there are a few things I’ve noticed while using it so far.

Bugs and possible changes:
- snapping lines to perspective grid doesn’t work
- “cursor shape” shows up 2 times in settings preferences>interface and the top one isn’t clickable (screenshot is attached)
- autoshape circle and ovals don’t have expected size, the circles and ovals always “snap” way smaller than what was drawn (video attached) in the video to demonstrate i made a rectangle and inside it a circle touching the edges, so you would expect the circle to be roughly that size but instead it’s much smaller and inside the rectangle
- autoshape should NOT snap into perfect shape, unless you press down with second finger
- sometimes (~40% of time) when making a rectangle with autoshape, it switches into an oval instead, even if I made really clear edges
- all the other things here that were already mention about autoshape
- quick menu size is too big now (for small hands like mine) So it would be good to have an option to choose the size yourself
- deleting a color swatch via long pressing is not working (for some reason this opens the App gallery?)
- I think “gutter” setting from guide layout should be set to 0 by default, instead of 10
-crash when trying to play timelapse recording

Suggested features to add:
- Add option to “clear layer” in preferences > gestures. So for example you could set 3 finger swipe or tap to clear layer
- Already mentioned that one but gonna say again, I think being able to add perspective grid and guide settings to shortcut menu and toolbar would be really useful and also the option to change line thickness and opacity of perspective grid
- I think it would make sense that while you’re in “guide settings” you can add guidelines and move and delete the guidelines. So you don’t have to exit this setting and use “ show ruler” to add and “move tool” to remove or move a guide.

And auto hide 3 dots and home indicator is great but I think the time it takes to “hide” should be less, if that is something you can change.
And also it gets triggered every time you use “single tap” even on the middle of the the screen (to which I have set quick menu). So it keeps constantly showing up anyway and you would have to wait after every tap for it to disappear again. So if there’s an option for it to disappear, even if you keep drawing directly after tapping and don’t have to wait, or if the time for it to disappear could be set really really short, that would solve it I think. Otherwise it would still be on screen all the time, since I think its unrealistic that you wait so long after every “single tap”. (Also included a video with random scribbles to show that the 3dots and indicator won’t disappear if you continue drawing right after single tapping)

That’s all so far, hope it helps! :)
Thank you so much for the great development of this app!

Edit: tested on M1 iPad Pro 12.9 (512GB) and also attached screenshot of the document settings :)
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: lastaccess on October 14, 2021, 06:32:35 PM
Quick menu size is very personal. I like current one in beta, old one in stable is too small. But if we could choose from different preset size, that would be good.

Also, I’d have it all the time centered (optionally of course). That is especially important if you have quick menu set on apple pencil 2nd gen tap.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: icezimy on October 14, 2021, 11:49:15 PM
After using Beta few more hours, I think new quick menu size is not a big deal after all, got used to it quickly. :) But I do like the way it is now, that it appears where-ever you tap on the screen, I don’t think it should be centered on middle, that should definitely be optional, if they ever decide to add something like that.

Also here’s a video showing that autoshape rectangles turn into ovals sometimes, couldn’t add more to the other one
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 15, 2021, 03:23:31 AM
Thanks for all your reports, we are working on them now. Here are few comments:
- add "Clear" to gestures - we will not do that, you can show it in top menu/quick menu/shortcut.
- "3 dots" icon is managed by system, we can only make it "auto hidden"
- dynamic flow/opacity/size in Autoshape will be implemented probably next week

The rest should be ready in new beta which will be released today.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: icezimy on October 15, 2021, 01:28:13 PM
I know you can add “clear” to quick menu, but having it as gesture could free up a menu space for something else. I just suggested it because in Procreate they also added gestures for “clear layer”, so I thought having it in Artstudio Pro as gesture too, could be really nice! :)

And wow most things are fixed already , that was so fast!

Here are some continued bugs:
- snapping lines to perspective grid still not working
- autoshape rectangles still sometimes turn into ovals, but much better than before (maybe around 15% of time now)
- autoshape “perfect shape” with second finger works, but not that well right now. Especially when doing circles, it sometimes takes really long to recognize the second finger tap before it turns into perfect circle. And if you try to release the tap and go back and forth between your shape and perfect shape, it’s recognizes it really slow (especially if compared to the other drawing modes where switching back and forth with tapping is really fast(video attached for comparison)) And sometimes it “freezes” or lags completely and you can’t move the shape anymore with the pencil and just have to release. And other times it doesn’t recognize second finger tap at all (also with °90 lines and rectangles), so nothing happens at all. I attached a video showing what I mean with the circles too
- And if perspective grid line thickness and opacity can be implemented before official release it would amazing. But it’s already great that you can put these settings into toolbar and quick menu now!

And besides that everything seems to work fine right now. How long will the Beta continue before official release?

Edit: - perspective grid doesn’t always save the before set colors on new documents and instead resets to white color
-general suggestion for “grid“ would be that if “show grid” and “snap” are activated that all lines drawn on canvas snap to 90° lines (like in procreate), because right now it’s really hard to draw straight lines with grid. Also lines thickness and opacity setting would be great for grid and guides settings too, not just perspective grid)
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: ggermain1 on October 15, 2021, 10:29:30 PM
I agree, the autoshape perfect shape feature doesn’t really register the second tap as often and it’s kinda laggy.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 18, 2021, 06:58:58 AM
Perfect shape 2nd finger lag - i think you mean that you have to move the first finger a bit to change current shape into a perfect shape, we will fix it asap.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: ggermain1 on October 19, 2021, 01:07:16 PM
Autoshape is working really good now. Great job! Can I make a small request? Can the tap feature also be used to create equilateral triangles as well? Are you guys still working on making the autoshapes editable?
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: lastaccess on October 19, 2021, 04:27:56 PM
Once again about Gallery.

1. Is it possible to make it light interface while using dark interface in the app? Black gallery is pain for my eyes.
2. Is it possible to preview in full screen other file types in Artstudio Gallery? I mean it can only open .artstudio. Would be good to open to full screen preview jpeg, png, tiff, psd, gif.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 21, 2021, 05:45:56 AM
Light Browser - it will be not consistent with the rest of the app.

Preview of other files - it is working on iOS 15.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: lastaccess on October 21, 2021, 08:15:18 AM
It is not consistent at the moment too. Whole app interface is gray and I like it. But interface of gallery is black which is too contrast for eyes. White gallery is better then dark one. But I don’t want to change app theme to light, because I don’t like it. If it is possible to have separate themes for app and gallery, why not use it.

You mean small preview on “get info”. Preview are too small, kind of 5x5 sm maximum if picture is square. Again, if it is possible to make full screen preview of image files like it works in Files app, why not do it.

It is all about convenience. Good app is not obligatory technically best, but one that is comfortable to use. If it is hard to code or impossible in technical aspects ok then.

Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 21, 2021, 01:23:31 PM
If i receive more requests about light browser, i will add such option.

Unfortunately i cannot make a big preview, the browser is a system controller.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Raffaello on October 21, 2021, 02:19:00 PM
In the autoshape "tool" you can make an option to edit the shapes after drawing it, similar to what happens in Procreate quickshape, where you can make adjustments to the stroke without having to use the transform.
 ???
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 22, 2021, 03:49:28 AM
It is planned, but i'm not sure if we can make it before version 3.3 (4.0) release date.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: iarafath on October 23, 2021, 04:15:31 AM
Some suggestions and notes on the new beta.

1. Gallery view is great. Small issue though with closing the view without any actions. The close button is not that visible. Maybe add a back button to go back to the app window.
 
2. Feature request: Adding smoothing options like the brush (live spring, spring, rope) to lasso tool and paint bucket lasso fill. This would help immensely to draw smoother curves and shapes to block out colours etc.

3. Option to Reset imported brushes to their default values (size, flow, etc) to the original import values.

4. Option to add brush size memory similar procreate 5.2 beta

Thanks to everyone at Lucky Clan, Art Studio pro is now my daily driver next to photoshop. Such a well thought out software design.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Jack Ofalltrades on October 23, 2021, 08:44:22 AM
I want to remind you of these Autoshape suggestions: https://www.luckyclan.com/forum/index.php?topic=1526.msg4179#msg4179
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 23, 2021, 12:46:08 PM
Yes, we remember about it.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: ggermain1 on October 24, 2021, 05:13:41 PM
There seems to be a bug in autoshape when making ellipses and circles. Every time the line overlaps with itself, autoshape makes an arc instead of a complete circle or ellipse. I’ve attached a video demonstrating what I mean.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Raffaello on October 24, 2021, 07:42:59 PM
Yes, I also noticed this bug. It is as if the "overlap" of the line in the autoshape erased the line and generated these incomplete ellipse.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: LCArt on October 25, 2021, 02:22:42 AM
Could you allow us to pick the color we want for the accent of the app? don't really get the limitation on this when we are able to pick the color for guides/grid... I personally would love to be able to pick the same accent color I use everywhere else in my streams :S
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: lastaccess on October 25, 2021, 04:32:56 AM
Does everybody like pure black background gallery?)
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 25, 2021, 06:36:39 AM
Thanks, i will fix it.

Yes, I also noticed this bug. It is as if the "overlap" of the line in the autoshape erased the line and generated these incomplete ellipse.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 25, 2021, 06:37:26 AM
Rather not, sorry, we don't want to overcomplicate it.

Could you allow us to pick the color we want for the accent of the app? don't really get the limitation on this when we are able to pick the color for guides/grid... I personally would love to be able to pick the same accent color I use everywhere else in my streams :S
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: icezimy on October 26, 2021, 02:06:58 AM
Could you allow us to pick the color we want for the accent of the app? don't really get the limitation on this when we are able to pick the color for guides/grid... I personally would love to be able to pick the same accent color I use everywhere else in my streams :S

I also suggested that in a mail. I think having a custom color wheel/slider to pick accent color would be great. Hopefully it could still be considered for some future updates. 😊
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: icezimy on October 26, 2021, 02:16:14 AM
Does everybody like pure black background gallery?)

I prefer the old grey gallery look, but they had some good reason to switch to browser gallery and unfortunately they can't change anything there except for dark or light theme. And I think mixing light and dark theme like you suggested would clash even more
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: lastaccess on October 26, 2021, 05:04:03 AM
Does everybody like pure black background gallery?)

I prefer the old grey gallery look, but they had some good reason to switch to browser gallery and unfortunately they can't change anything there except for dark or light theme. And I think mixing light and dark theme like you suggested would clash even more

I like grey too, it’s calm for eyes. White on Pure Black is too harsh and overwhelming. Now, I realized one thing: I’m almost don’t need gallery now. You can open .artstudio files from Files app, which has normal white theme. And it can normally preview all other image file types.

And speaking of color accents to the app, I guess they are too saturated, that’s why people want to add there own colors. But color wheel of course would be good. I’m fine with standard orange myself.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: icezimy on October 26, 2021, 06:08:39 AM
Does everybody like pure black background gallery?)

I prefer the old grey gallery look, but they had some good reason to switch to browser gallery and unfortunately they can't change anything there except for dark or light theme. And I think mixing light and dark theme like you suggested would clash even more

I like grey too, it’s calm for eyes. White on Pure Black is too harsh and overwhelming. Now, I realized one thing: I’m almost don’t need gallery now. You can open .artstudio files from Files app, which has normal white theme. And it can normally preview all other image file types.

And speaking of color accents to the app, I guess they are too saturated, that’s why people want to add there own colors. But color wheel of course would be good. I’m fine with standard orange myself.

I like the current selection of accent colors, but it’s a bit limited. Maybe if integrating a color picker is too complicated, just have an option in addition to current presets, to copy & paste a color code?

Either way, I’m still happy they gave us that customization option at all!😊
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on October 26, 2021, 07:23:09 AM
We are using colors (not all) from this system color list:
https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/ios/visual-design/color/

We don't have plans to change it now or edit custom color code, sorry.
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: ggermain1 on October 30, 2021, 11:54:13 AM
The lasso select tool isn’t working and it doesn’t make selections on 3.3 (722).
Title: Re: Beta 3.3
Post by: Lucky Clan on November 09, 2021, 07:30:25 AM
Fixed in the most recent beta.

The lasso select tool isn’t working and it doesn’t make selections on 3.3 (722).