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Support => Suggestions, Ideas, Bugs => Topic started by: Calypso on April 30, 2019, 07:21:25 AM
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Hello Team
I've switched from iOS to Android and I'm in dire need of a comprehensible, 0 compromises image editor, which are few and far between on Android. I used ArtStudio extensively on my old phone and have not found a single app that actually came close to it on the Android store and I tried out a decent amount.
So why don't you guys have any interest in porting the app to the Play Store? It could dominate the market with ease 🤔
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Currently we don't have enough resources to make this. It is 2 years of work or more...
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I just got word that ArtStudio has received a major update/overhaul some time ago and I was hoping for news regarding an Android port. Looking around for options but to no avail, I came across a couple APKs but those are most likely fake.
Having collected good insight on how much time and effort an App takes to create and maintain over the past years myself, I know it's easier said than done. But have you re-considered releasing an Android port since 2019?
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We are still very busy working on current updates. And sales are not enough to build bigger team. So android must wait, sorry.
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Hi,
Would you be considering a kickstarter for funding?
And maybe, focus only on Samsung devices so that it's a lot less work? (like galaxy store)
Saying that because the only good art app for android is infinite painter IMO, so you would be welcomed like kings if one day you decided to go both ways.
I have an iPad and a Samsung tab with Spen and I prefer using the Samsung a lot more. You can work for hours without having to charge your pen with the Spen. And the Apple pencil is so heavy...
Plus, the new Samsung S8 ultra with its 14in screen would be a huge asset for artists.
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I can write we are doing some researches and basic tasks to make Artstudio "multiplatform" in the future. But it will take 2-3 years to implement it because app must be rewritten almost from scratch. And i haven't decided if we will do it...
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From scratch, a bit like the developper from infinite painter had to do with his android version. He's been working like crazy for more than 8 months because he had to rewrite almost the whole thing.
I really hope you do!
If you do, pleaaaase begin with Samsung :D
And kickstarter doesn't interest you at all to help with the finances?
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If you port ASP to Android it will be able to run on Windows. I've already run the android version of Infinite Painter with good results. I sideloaded sketchbook and some games too. I'd rather see that the MacOs version gets some more love than running ASP on an android tablet. The format on most android tablets are terrible, I rather run a 4:3 iPad, it's more usable for artists. But that's me, I'm pretty shure there are others thinking different. ;)
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As an owner of both, yeah the 4:3 ratio is nice, but the pencil... I hate the pencil. It heavy like hell (unlike a real pencil) and you have to charge it. I have the older generation one so the charging position is awkward.
Plus you have to plug it to pair it...
And Apple's way of doing things... don't like as well. Like, you can't add an sd card for extra storage etc.
Then, all developers know it is way easier to develop for iOS than Android.
Hence focusing only on Samsung tablets.
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Alina, weight of Apple Pencil is very personal. I find it light and want it to be heavier.
I have Apple Pencil 2nd gen and I really don't think about charging and pairing. Never. Previous generation was a bit inconvenient, I agree.
And speaking of topic question, I think most of the artists who want to draw portably already have iPad, so spliting development to Android part maybe not that profitable.
Have you tried Krita on your Android tablet?
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@Lastaccess, yes I did try Krita. It's a good app, but still beta and so many things don't work + there is no touch support. You have to use it like the PC app on your tablet, which is awkward.
I like infinite painter better for now
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Personally, I think that an Android version is a not a very good idéa.
But it's up to Lucky Clan to decide if it's worth the effort.
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Yeah, in the end it's all up to the team.
But personally, I wouldn't mind re-paying for the android licence, even if I already paid for the iOS license.
A bit like repaying for switch ports of video games you already own on the PS2 :)
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Appstore and Google play is not sharing accounts and licensing in no way, so it's impossible to pay for one and get the two versions. I would pay for the Android version too, even in advance. It's sad that the Android plattform only have one pro painting app, Infinite Painter. I use both apps on my iPad and they really make a great workflow, but on Windows I only got Photoshop. An Android version would make it possible to use it on Windows too.
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With a small developing team it makes more sense to focus on iPad version and better put the effort into marketing that one, than creating a whole other app for android or windows. Also think 4:3 ratio is definitely better for creating art and personally love the Apple Pencil over other stylus pens 🤷♀️
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I also want to see new features and improvements come faster on the product that exists.
But you can also see that somehow, there is a deal struck with Apple and procreate on ios, so artstudio pro becomes invisible.
When you type artstudio pro on the store, you see procreate's ad first. I also own procreate and I do love it as well, but Artstudio pro is almost invisible on the store unless you know it exists and it's as good procreate (I don't care about animation)
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I promote ASP everywhere and every chance I get. I guess the Procreate teams 5.2 versions 3D-painting is a way for Apple to push the artists to buy the M1 iPad. Money rulez and we just have to accept that. The best way we can help Lucky Clan is to become ASP evangelists.
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If you watched Apple's iOS 15 presentation, there was Procreate ad in creators section. So, these guys made there name.
Artstudio team should work a bit on this site. Show your work section is akward. Good art made in software is a good advertising too.
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Maybe we should flood youtube with speedpaints in ASP?
Concept artist will love ASP as soon they see what can be done with layers, layer types, adjustment layers, masks, transformations, import PS-brushes and directly import textures as layers. Brushes made with all the ASP special brushengine features are amazing to. The desktop version is faster than Photoshop on my PC and Mac.
Something I miss is the ability to import PSD:s with adjustable layers. I can implement them manually after import but to have it done during import would be a timesaver.
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I promote ASP everywhere and every chance I get. I guess the Procreate teams 5.2 versions 3D-painting is a way for Apple to push the artists to buy the M1 iPad. Money rulez and we just have to accept that. The best way we can help Lucky Clan is to become ASP evangelists.
Yes, I also believe that there is some agreement between Procreate and Apple, where Procreate draws attention to new iPads, and Apple gives more prominence to Procreate in its ads.
For the greater growth of the ASP, Lucky Clan could work better on this site here, it needs an update, needs to modernize, and sell the app better here.
Invest more in marketing outside the App Store, because they already have a very consistent application, and that supplied programming users such as PS very well who migrate to an application.
One of the advantages I like most about ASP is to see developers listening to the user community here through this forum. Procreate also has ways to listen to its users, but it does not meet the demands of users so easily.
I have long seen that they have been asking for them to improve the stroke smoothing system. But instead they bring resources that are cool, but blur a lot of the simplicity that is a positive point of them.
Deploying animation feature and now 3D, in my opinion is cool, but it's just a decoy for new users, and they don't work on meeting the requests of the usual users.
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Another thing in addition to everything else mentioned, that would help selling the app, is to be more active on their socials like Instagram and Youtube, Twitter would be good too. Posting frequent quality art of their users via their hashtag and provide some kind of user handbook like procreate, I see many new users asking about it all the time. Making frequent short tutorial videos, Tipps&Tricks and actually show off all the stuff, that ASP can do over other apps in the appstore! And promote new updates in advance everywhere, like procreate does.
I know marketing is not easy, but it's so important and ASP definitely lacking lots in that department. It would probably even pay off, thinking about hiring one more person just to care about social media and marketing? Also maybe a Patreon page or something where users can make donations to support the team abit would be helpful too
I also always promote the app wherever I can, and would love to see it getting the recognition it deserves!😁 It is the only app I need and use for painting nowadays and I just love it alot.
Procreate definitely in favor of apple. I love and understand animation features of it, the only reason why I still use it sometimes, but I never seen any users actually requesting for 3D painting before they just decided to implement it, kinda odd, even tough it's cool, they are very behind in very basic features that's been requested for a long time, but they are just great at advertising themselves
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I was thinking about patreon too. One thing we can do is to join the "Artstudio pro showcase for artists" on Facebook. It's pretty dead and gets 4 new posts a year. We can change that so that other artists see a living, active community and get curious. It might be the answer to a new "Show your art" section rather than in this forum. I will try to join the group. The last time i tried, none of the administrators added me.
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Thanks for all suggestions. I agree marketing is something we have to improve…
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I joined the group on Facebook. I know that many of us are introverts, but come on, join the group and start posting. ;)
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people still use facebook? :o
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Mouhahahaha!... What? They don't? ???
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"Artstudio pro showcase for artists" is an old, forgotten group.
I think Facebook is not the best place for artists to show their work.
Much better are:
- Instagram (remember to tag art with #artstudiopro)
- Artstation (put Artstudio Pro in Software Used field)
- Deviantart
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I don't know what you think but a Discord server is quite useful too!
I'm in a couple of "official" server of some apps (like Nomad Sculpt) and it's a nice place for an active community, sharing works, tips, announcements for updates and so on.